Looks like. Generalfaster • 1 hr. The way naval hit probabilities work in hoi4, it's a reasonable concept. You can put groups of DDs on Invasion support to have them tag along with the troop transports. In my Germany game i got 2x superheavy battleship (upgraded full slots ofc) after 2 years of building time by 1942, some heavy cruisers and plenty of AA/submarine hunter. Sub 3s, Light attack spam, torpedo screen spam, etc. It's mostly well balanced if you play on historical. g Banana Empire Panama taking over Mexico. 6% better. If you're running at speed 5 and using a conventional hard drive (i. Yes it's called the co-op option. You can also do a double motorized for even more supply but you’ll eat your trucks doing it. HOI4 Tools SGr - Save Game Recorder - records, compresses, and archives autosave files in realtime, no game impact. E. Naval bombers delete the screens, subs kill the convoys and capitals. Float planes were not much more useful than scout planes unless they ran into a submarine or escorted cargo ships. L. So this is not bathtub strat (Cool victory tho comrad). Sink the Italian Fleet. If you play non-historical mode be prepared to see some weird stuff, e. Lose form the Franco British Union then do the. r/hoi4 • You’re tasked with creating a new Focus Tree for a nation that doesn’t have one, which nation is it, and what’s a main feature of it?. It isn’t opening, can somebody please tell me a fix? This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A JJ_BB_SS • Additional comment actions. ago. Business, Economics, and Finance. I would say subs are the most OP. Cruiser "spam" seems to have taken that place, although some of the CC community seem to be testing ways to get more crew onto a cheaper hull (since ship crew is part of the calculation for how much control a ship gives). 8K subscribers Subscribe 2. Then in order to get most out of them funnel your convoy routes through a few sectors. Third Reich; Trade Interdiction for subs maxed; have all sub tech except for torpedo launcher 4; already have that advisor. Build 2)’s Cruisers but also spam Destroyers with full torpedoes on them. 6. After they are gone go to the MS website and download the newest drivers. r/hoi4. 21. 1. BB and SHBB are anti-ship ships. 49. There are 2 ways to use them. Let's get on with the guide! Terminology. 9. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. CryptoEven if you got enough autonomy to become free, you won't be able to, as you NEED to do the abandon westminster focus. heavy attack spam is. Join. So i assume that causes the fake divisions to disappear. Naval supremacy of ship = 100. Join my discord:. 1. Join my discord:. 1. 2. k. Battalions can be of the same type, so that results in 40 25, or 11. 2. If you care about details HOI4 has a lot of design issues. Mines screw with enemies, make them slow down and stuff. This thread is archived. No enemy airports = no red air, simple as that. Pairing with this, I still think Submarine spam is viable if you're gonna go the long game. Originally posted by Random: the easiest and most effective way to wipe out subs on mass is to setup about 4 groups of 10-15 destroyers with at least 2 secondary gun components setup to depth charges (pretty much every destroyer that isn't a minelayer or minesweeper should have this) with your highest available radar + sonar, and set them to. Even low level ports should be able to receive vastly more supply than supply hubs connected by rail. trumps_lasagna • 3 yr. Learned To Love Submarine Groups. 1. ViniciusSinged • 21 days ago. That said this is basically meta (against AI). dont know about anti air but anti tank seemed fairly usefull as attachments to infantry. Also subs count less towards naval supremacy. It is the most efficient in responding to the escort needs of convoys and in anti-submarine warfare. More time and QA. 8 × 5 = 24. Paratroopers say they launched but dont do anything. 29. Task Force Admiral looks good. In order to load certain graphic mods they need to be loaded before the main mod, otherwise they won't work. This scales [hoi4. 7-2 ide say don’t used, just go pure infantry with shovels and artillery support companies, 14-4s are still good. I had expeditionary forces from some minor puppet, they were at almost no strength for years down the line. 8. In reality it is an order of magnitude cheaper to move freight by sea and river than by rail. The convoy escort gives +30% escort efficiency, which is pretty good because it lowers the number of escort ships required, and +20% sub detection for DDs. As someone with 600 hours in HOI4 and a good understandung of the navy, dont bother. To make matters worse, the "Support Attack" mechanic is old in the HoI series (since HoI2 at least, never played HoI1), but its so counterintuitive in HoI4 that for my first 1000 hours in the game I was mumbling about how the support attack mechanic from previous games was great and I couldn't understand why they had. I play as Germany and war is about to break out in 1939. I have about 60 submarines and would like to convoi raid Great Britain. gaoruosong • 3 yr. - When your fleet meets and enemy fleet they begin a naval battle. Set a small fleet of destroyers and subs on recon and set your main fleet to strike force and wait. Anything to look out for to. Same thing with air wings, although admittedly I don't really know how to organize those in HOI4 either. When originally they where givin these cool professional sounding names like raider group, pacific fleet, so on and so forth. Unfortunately, your choices are to either stay at speed 4 (which is still pretty fast), or upgrade your aystem. Have general patrols to spot them then have several small fleets of destroyers and manually move them like you describe to give them nowhere to run. So yeah, it depends very heavily on situation. If I'm not mistaken, if You want to produce even some crappy planes, You need to research three things: airflame, engine and some guns. Which makes them much more difficult to sink. Afterwards I left their faction and declared war on. These slots can be populated by modules via the Ship Designer in order to form complete ship designs (a. ago. Sub 3 cannot be hit by AI, AI won't retreat because they're at a material advantage. It's the meta for a reason. If you care about details HOI4 has a lot of design issues. Light Cruisers can get a very high operational range and destroy many convoys very quickly. Types of Ships. I don't know if others have different experiences but most people I encounter just say that sub 3 spam is unbeatable, I keep my destroyers and cruisers with max Sub Detection. 2. Is heavy cruiser spam still the naval meta? Also is base strike the best doctrine for them? < > Showing 1-9 of 9 comments . Fallout 4, HOI4, Final Fantasy X/X-2, Skyrim, Valheim, The Outer Worlds,. destroyers also get one shot by p. 12. 5 (100 * 1. For example it goes from 3 bars to 2 bars and then 1 bar and then it pauses the game. Exemple Japanese Submarine. Still, if you've played other Paradox titles, you're probably used to games where playing a powerful nation is painfully easy, and you know that you. Submarine Wolfpack --- Minimum: 20 Subs; Sweet Spot: 30 Subs; Maximum: 50 Subs; Raiding Group --- Minimum: 5 DDs, 25 Subs OR 5 CLs, 25 Subs; Convoy. For subs, create sub hunter fleets with 2-3 light cruisers per patrol fleet and 5-8 destroyers for the actual hunters. This mod makes no changes to vanilla ships or modules. ; heavy attack spam: to counter the best build you need the best anti-build. Sub 3’s are very good, and they are very quick to build. 1936 Battleship. Maybe your subs don’t have enough coverage or are spread over too many zones. In reality it is an order of magnitude cheaper to move freight by sea and river than by rail. 48am. Ok, definitely gonna look into that tomorrow. New and Improved HOI4 Meme thread - Post your memes here. I also agree with the advice of researching 1944 tech for Engines IV, but continue to use the 1940 frame. I'm trying to imagine the submarine shooting down airplanes while simultaneously sinking 4 ships. Best Naval doctrine is spamming naval bombers. Idk if it's because of enemy intel or his divisions on the front. These can be surface ships, submarines, and/or aircraft carriers. ago. Last game I tried building a navy by spamming destroyers, cruisers and grouping them with capitals as well as submarine spam. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. Heavy tanks are good for fighting other tanks, like lights or mediums or other heavies. allan11011 • General of the Army • 1 yr. The army and air force have a bigger impact on the war than the navy. 2- start preparing (or just pump divs out) to make a lot of divisions to rush anschluss. Surface Raiders have higher kill rates because they have higher surface detection to find convoys. Attack for a good while, halt. Outside of a tank division as their own dedicated motorized. They're more for convoy raiding. The cruisers kill enemy screen ships. For your all around infantry template you can go 7 infantry, 2 artillery, support art, engineer, recon, support anti. Destroyers have torpedoes 20% weaker than Light Cruisers and 1/3 the strength of Submarines. 1 / 6. And if you can get green air in the channel then just spam bombers there too. If I'm not mistaken, if You want to produce even some crappy planes, You need to research three things: airflame, engine and some guns. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by… It enhances Search & Destroy for capital ships, submarine detection for screening ships, and bonuses for all classes, although subs seem least favored. l to ensure that your capitals are effectively screened. 2. So there currently two populair navy strategies that I see floating around. Submarines aren't usually able to sink ships. Then just spam these out. Base Strike is more focused on Carriers & Naval Bombers. In most cases, a fleet in HOI4 is simply a group of naval vessels. Whenever you get air superiority spam nukes. 3. 0 version. The other thing you could do is. Nope. Submarine Spam. 375K subscribers in the hoi4 community. Very few focus tree mods are good imo, they are often times super overpowered. It's actually serious. Spamming submarines, though dumb at first, can be surprisingly effective. 11. Putting naval bombers and fighters along with radars on land will find the enemy navy extremely fast and put a lot of damage on them. Yup, I have an ongoing game as the anarchists where the axis became unofficial allies while I fought the real Allies. The AI doesn't produce the second and destroyer spam is best killed by good cruisers. Playing the UK in a multiplayer game, it's 1944 and the German Navy has been pumping out more than 10 submarines a month it seems. Latest HOI4 province summary. If your goal is to go after warships by setting aggressive to max, then snorkel will allow your subs to stay in the fight longer and sink more enemy warships. This is from Kaiserreich mod (Before No step back). You can never go wrong with torpedos and it always is a good idea to build screen with a. Japan either goes full into Yamamoto mode and makes super heavy battleships maximizing heavy attack. Combat widths allowable are dictated by terrain type. 1 comment. And a great ally, it only took them about an hour to convert all of the battleships to submarines, all thanks to Japan! Submarine spam remains the true meta. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. Is there something I m doing wrong because I thought I should be able to increase UI scale beyond default 1X ? This thread is archived. Seriously though. : r/hoi4. You must have enough unassigned transport planes on that location to be able to perform a launch. I'm currently trying a paraguay campaign where I'll be relying on submarines for sea control, if I ever get that far, and I'll probably try using 1940 subs only, for the manpower and production savings. Range, cant reach any battles that are currently happening, but sometimes airzones bug, could also be airfield being crowded. With field hospitals and big 40w armored divisions I can have 7 veterans by the end. That Screen is bugged. Specialized destroyers and naval bombers should do the trick. 5 (100 * 1. here is the chart. Any-Squirrel-3953 • 9 mo. Subs are the best scouts, best convoy raiders, and best minelayers. 1 update. Below water, obviously, is submarine spam. Top posts of April 5,. Hearts of Iron. Its a pretty good expansion of the base game. IMHO, there's no reason to build CV if you're just operating in the Med because you can fully cover all of the sea zones with land-based aircraft. ago. The fact that patches are pretty much only released with DLCs and DLCs are released once per year doesn't really help, either. ) yet in-game you can make subs that can sink entire navies. Build Cruisers with one cheapest heavy gun and the rest the best light guns you can get. ago. Typically, they are destroyers or submarines for maximum spam. But that would take a lot of modding work to make happen. Mid 1. 127. Put radar in that slot. But in places where you can build radar on land, just have the naval bombers hunt the subs because it's faster to find them with the radar. 3. In the past 3 years I've destroyed maybe 30 of their ships, while I lost a total of about 150-200 ships (I started with around 400-450, now I only have about 250). Front 1. 1- don't do any focus until you get 50 pp and immediately justify on poland. Naval Rebalance - Sub and Cruiser spam is DEAD!! #hoi4 #news #HYPE A closer look at the new Dev Diary with a look at some changes to the Naval aspect of the game! A NEW DLC is in. R5: This is totally nonsensical, maybe I could see the logic for rivers providing 6x the supply of rails, but if a supply hub is already connected to a river, it should not suddenly have it's supply reduced if you decide to also connect it by rail. Theres an event in the base game, UK can take a decision to demand vichy france's fleet, listed in operations as mers_el_kebir_raid. More armor/piercing, more hardness, more hard attack, slightly more soft attack, defense, and breakthrough. But that would take a lot of modding work to make happen. Logitech F710 Controller for submarines. There's a huge opportunity cost to building carriers, not just in terms of MIC to build the planes and NIC to build the CV (plus their screens), but there are better uses of your research slots. Enitity_Enigma • 21 days ago. It appears to be a submarine exploit, in which you spam single submarines in the area to distract Napoleon’s fleet. Which is like a HUGE problem if true. Yeah, best way as France to get to the British mainland is to land LOTS of paratroopers as soon as you can and get to a port quickly. destroy_ships = { type = ship_hull_heavy count = 2 } this might be what youre looking for? (wtt. They serve the same ultimate purpose, destroyers are 2-3x faster and can disengage a lot easier without casualties, can spot far better, etc. ago. 666. 3. 0 unless otherwise noted. Coastal radar installations help naval superiority and fleet spotting. So have some divisions at a port on your coast waiting, scout out the British coast with your fleet before you declare war, then drop the paratroopers on the island in a relatively weak spot and then get your army across the channel. Submarines aren't usually able to sink ships. Go to hoi4 r/hoi4 • by. MTG needed a little more iteration. 0 + 0. ago. Submarine spam 1-2 tank divisions. 3. 1. It might have been patched in the beta 1. any tactic will defeat AI. the game is made in sweden yet theres no swedish lamguage paradox = lazy. Vote. Build Sub 3/4s with snorkels. Click a ship and then right click the naval version of the army tab in the row where you want it (which admiral you want it to go to). If you really want to go with navy stuff go with Base Strike. You can either 'cheat' by making the tech sharing group non-reliant on a NF (as it used to be), or you can just remove yourself from the group and restart the NF. Secondly are the heavy cruisers. Heavy cruisers also have the speed which heavier ships lack, making them far better and finding and killing enemy ships. For every 1 point in Sub Detection you get +1,8% Chance of finding the enemy Submarine. The AI doesn't produce the second and destroyer spam is best killed by good cruisers. Destroyers have very weak naval guns, while Light cruiser guns are at least good for killing Destroyers. Deliberus Banned. r/hoi4 • Is submarine spam enough to sink AI navy?According to his experience they don't. ago. Overrun happens when your troops start a retreat into friendly territory, but before their move finishes, the territory changes hands to the enemy, giving them nowhere valid to retreat to. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game…I would nominate the Netherlands (who starts with a respectable navy albeit far from that of a major) and Portugal, for the second if you go royalist and recover Brasil you have the base to build a navy. This makes them heavy cruisers so they get protected by your Destroyers. You can put groups of DDs on Invasion support to have them tag along with the troop transports. Submarine spam with limited surface AA and fighter support can work too, quite effective for IC limited nation. Long range submarine patrols, and similar mine laying operations are my first two choices. Aircraft Carrier Survival was neat. When enemy subs are sighted, your. HOI4 Navy Guide | Submarines bigschmokes 4. And that's the list of useful options for naval combat. Spam divisions/planes. PeaceWalking • 4 yr. 10. This becomes a problem because laptops have inherently weaker processors. So I build an airbase, and before I can select some planes to put in the airbase, my allies put 5000 planes in a level one airbaseBest. Like I hate that in order to properly organize your navy you have to regroup all the ships to fleets named task force one, task force two and so on. You shouldn't need to spend more than $150 on a graphics card to able to max out the graphics for HOI4. However, my ships cannot move to the naval zone at all, or do any tasks in the zone. When you get the 1940 subs w/ snorkels, you can go on the offense to hunt down big fleets. If you're looking for a competent surface fleet to fight other ships with, the basics is cheap DD with good engine and some torpedoes, and heavy cruisers loaded down with light attack. ago. submarines can only really kill capital ships well but thats if theres a good amount of submarines and only a few capitalships (No screens or else subs will get massacred, even in a doomstack) but going down the submarine doctrine tree can make the subs really good at massacring convoys. 76. Then the torp destroyers kill enemy caps. If they hit 0 manpower before you you win. Trade Interdiction. That said this is basically meta (against AI). They have the world's greatest submarine battleship force. ago. Reply. 1 Lavaix1 Fleet Admiral • 1 yr. Other naval ship terms: CA: heavy cruiser BC: battlecruiser BB: battleship CV: aircraft carrier SS: submarine Light cruisers are generally referred to cruisers with guns no larger than 6” caliber. Idk man, my dad can't swim. Submarine Designs. Exemple Japanese Submarine. Hover over the unit in your division to see if it can be paradropped. They are so good some games literally ban them because they are so. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Given this purpouse it shouldn't have engineers, recon or military. Yes, I believe it is one of the options the host can choose. Console command to change nations once they are formed. Most subs had one or two small-caliber ( destroyer sized, but without the turret/armor ) dual-purpose gun on them, they would be used when surfaced. 9. PeaceWalking • 4 yr. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. At 1936 level, the DE costs 1100 and the DD costs 1300. Destroyers stacked with torpedoes are more reliable than a sub spam. I seem to not be able to pass anything above 2 bar speed regardless of what setting the game speed bar is on. Yes. Content is available under Attribution-ShareAlike 3. Good light cruisers are excellent uses of. instant construction ( ic in the console) makes it so on every new day, every production line builds 1 vessel. The Ai cannot handle it. 19 votes, 16 comments. 1. Also flanking and encirclement. Exemple US Submarine . Putting naval bombers and fighters along with radars on land will find the enemy navy extremely fast and put a lot of damage on them. Firebombing killed more in Japan than the nukes yet two firebombing raids didn't make them surrender. r/hoi4. ago. Most subs had one or two small-caliber ( destroyer sized, but without the turret/armor ) dual-purpose gun on them, they would be used when surfaced. Above water is, very specifically: a main super strike fleet comprised of light cruisers with a single medium battery to ensure its in the secondary line, torpedo destroyers, and cheap, expendable screening destroyers; while the rest of the 9 capacity is occupied by cheap, fast, scout cruisers. lwp2004 • 4 yr. Having a ton of navs basically guarantees you’ll win. It's mostly well balanced if you play on historical. I've read mines help with naval supremacy and they are relatively efficient submarine wise. At the start of the game, each country will have a. In this short tutorial esque guide I will show how the current best way to counter the Axis sub spam, as the Allies (specifically the United Kingdom). ago. After the 5th their org should be down enough to run over. I can't remember if the Raj starts democratic or not, so you may also be able to have a Democratic coup to create India. 0 unless otherwise noted. You can get away with a card that only has 1 Gb of VRAM. Below water, obviously, is submarine spam. FrontierJustice- • 3 yr. They're very expensive to build, so don't go overboard. Something like this happens in the Chinese Civil war too. This is the most efficient way to design good divisions if you aren't allowed to participate in the Spanish Civil War. You do need a graphics card but it doesn't need to be very good. You should aim for a total of at least 4-5 destroyers per cruiser. Instead of doing 15-5 tank-mot, do 13-5-4 tank-mot-SPAA with support AA. Trade Interdiction makes ur surface fleets & subs be less visible to the enemy navy so ambushes are more efficient and running away is easier + u can raid convoys efficiently. ; 4 CV's and 100 DD's and CL's), but without more control over naval combat, will this just result in more losses of naval units because they suffer these criticals and slowly limp across the sealanes back towards. 005 * ship production cost in industrial capacity (IC) + 0. ago. I know the feeling. E. Business, Economics, and Finance. Polysci123 • 9 mo. IMHO, there's no reason to build CV if you're just operating in the Med because you can fully cover all of the sea zones with land-based aircraft. I use tanks for occupation, go for the craziest possible. there are 3 major builds that can counter each other, and a verity of other not so optimized ones. Spam basic infantry and forts, and try to get Italy on your side. Bait them into encirclement or just out murder them. Concentrate on upgrades that reduce visibility and torpedo reveal chance. r/hoi4 • You’re tasked with creating a new Focus Tree for a nation that doesn’t have one, which nation is it, and what’s a main feature of it? r/hoi4 • Is submarine spam enough to sink AI navy?1. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by…Always add radar to your ships. Turn your 18 width infantry with shovels into 40 width 14-4s with R. By 1940 tech level, the DEs cost 1150 and the DDs cost 1900. "Forget all your naval options and spam submarines" - Sun Tzu. 4 comments. Now there's only one way to basically play Japan for example. But last DD about rebalancing navy and two playtrough, when I cannot build even submarine spam fast. For example, somebody who is in modern day Tunisia could make Tunisia, Tunis, Carthage, etc. it largely prevents german tanks breaching the front in the southern plains when playing as the soviet union (though the single most important thing is to mass produce rifles in absurd quantities). Anything to look out for to. . So there currently two populair navy strategies that I see floating around. The main tree is mostly for CVs. Edit to link to my cut/paste. Same like equipment losses as well I try to find, for myself and the enemy. HOI4 Tools SGr - Save Game Recorder - records, compresses, and archives autosave files in realtime, no game impact. The Spanish civil war is the only place I actually try to get level 5 divs. Current HOI4 Version Supported: Barbarossa v1. The only techs that are worth it are Fire Control and Submarine Hulls; many other navy techs aren't worth the investment. CryptoThere are some big weaknesses in the supply system of both hoi4 and hoi3, but in a different way. I don't, but inside the mods folder there will be a folder called 'common' and inside that folder is another folder called 'technologies' and inside that will be several text files named after each researchable tech tree, they contain a list of all the item ids unlocked by researching that tree. Even low level ports should be able to receive vastly more supply than supply hubs connected by rail. Best. Low supply use divisions let you have tons of divisions on the front, but they're bad at offense. #hoi4 #news #HYPEA closer look at the new Dev Diary with a look at some changes to the Naval aspect of the game! A NEW DLC is in the works!Dev Diary: I have 500 hours on the game, mostly in multiplayer focusing on Navies since I cant micro ground forces very good. November 19, 2022 by Antonio. The equipment cost (for planes) also includes training pilots to an adequate level which is the reason why it is and should be expensive in IC cost. These divisions were unable to fight 2 Australian infantry divisions while being entrenched. Naval bombers delete the screens, subs kill the convoys and capitals. After the untimely demise of the previous meme thread, I am starting a new one. . #8. lancefighter • 4 yr. Look at the spanish civil war and the indian liberation army. How to use submarines properly. r/hoi4. Can I get a little advice on the fleet? Still can't get it how to use it properly, I'm relatively new. 474.